Queensberry Lodge

[Ann]

St Mary's graveyard plan

359.ILMO William TURBERVILLE 14.10.1912 - 4.9.1996 and his w. Gladys Kathleen 24.11.1910

It looks as if the Rev. Charles Hardy, vicar of St Mary's, was Anne Brooksbank's brother-in-law, which is probably why she came to live at Hayling.

571.Charles HARDY 48 years Vicar of Hayling North and South d. 9th July 1885 aged 81 also Charlotte his wid. d. 29th May 1894 aged 77

[Ann]

Rev. Charles Hardy, Vicar of Hayling, was married to Charlotte, 3rd daughter of Rev. Joseph William Martin, Rector of Keston, by Rev. James Kirkpatrick, in January 1845

[Ann]

1871 census

Queensberry Lodge has an agricultural labourer as head of house, plus wife. The adjacent properties on the census are Westfield Stables and the Live and Let Live Beerhouse!

It may be that it was Anne Brooksbank who made QL it into a proper house and that before that it was a humble lodge or gardener's cotttage on the Westfield estate.

[Holdens]

Thanks for all your research Ann. Thinking about it more, it would make sense that the house was originally a gardeners cottage, likely for Westfield House, given it was behind this estate, and had the front added on to make it into a "lodge". I'm still intrigued to find out more about this early cottage, as i haven't been able to place it on earlier maps so I'd like to find out when it was built. This part of the house certainly seems a lot older than the front part which as you say was probably added somewhere around 1870; the walls are thick and not straight, and the limestone flags in the old kitchen are very worn where the old entrance used to be. The front part of the house also a cellar. From the earliest maps it looks like there was a orchard behind the house, which makes sense as the old garden wall can still be seen down Garden Close; now with 3 bungalows in it.

The garage, which is separate, was clearly a stable for two or possibly four horses, as you can still see the dividing brickwork between the stalls. The floor is old polished brick.

Next door, Rhue Cottage, is in the process of being semi-knocked down and rebuilt. I went round to have a look and could see what was probably an entrance to the old cellars, but it's all filled in. I gather there was a skittle alley there too, but I think this may have been to the East of that property and now underneath the next-door house.

[badger]

Originally Posted by Holdens

... Next door, Rhue Cottage, is in the process of being semi-knocked down and rebuilt. I went round to have a look and could see what was probably an entrance to the old cellars, but it's all filled in. I gather there was a skittle alley there too, but I think this may have been to the East of that property and now underneath the next-door house.

For some reason my interest was aroused by thought of the old pub which was next door to Queensbury Lodge (if it were still there now, it would be my local!) - and I found myself tracking the progress of the two sites as seen on the maps from 1879 to 1969 on http://www.old-maps.co.uk/maps.html to which Ann pointed us.

Here's what I found - I hope some of it interests you and may be new to you:

Comparing the 1879 and 1898 1:2500 maps, Queensbury Lodge was extended eastward between those times; a structure of some sort between QL and the former Live and Let Live (now Rhue Cottage) was removed; the Queensbury Lodge plot frontage was extended westward; and two structures were built (probably the stables you've mentioned) north-east of QL up to the northern boundary of the plot. The skittle alley footprint on the eastern side of the Live and Let Live is evident on both maps.

The 1909 map shows an addition (the conservatory?) to the westward side of the front part of Queensbury Lodge, and what looks like a porch added to the front of the former Live and Let Live. (And, hp, Stonehenge was built nearby!)

No significant changes to the ground plans on those plots by the 1932 map.

The 1938-42 and 1962-63 1:10,560 maps reveal no change (Rhue Cottage reportedly suffered bomb damage in 1941).

The 1969-70 1:2,500 map reveals no change to Queensbury Lodge. Garden Close has been built. The footprint of the skittle alley is no longer shown protruding north-north-east from the back of Rhue Cottage, which has acquired a building to its western side (maybe a garage?). Rhue's plot appears to have extended westward towards Queensbury Lodge to take over a track which led to the field north of it. While Rhue has acquired a very close neighbour (No. 19) next to its eastern boundary, this boundary does not appear to have changed (so I
would expect any remains of the skittle alley, if it wasn't totally obliterated in post-bomb reconstruction, to lie under the eastern end of the building).
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